As 2020 draws to a close, Mind & Life Podcast host Wendy Hasenkamp and Jack discuss a wide range of topics, including:

• how he’s interpreting our current moment, and what’s needed most;
• his path into Buddhism & psychology, reflecting on family and coming of age in the 1960s;
• the value of going on a meditation retreat;
• links between Buddhism and psychology in terms of healing and self;
• the problem of spiritual bypassing;
• how to work with difficulties through allowing and gratitude;
• the role of Buddhist ideas in activism and social justice work;
• and the most important thing researchers can measure as an outcome of meditation practice.