Jack is joined by Frank Ostaseski to talk about rethinking our perspective on life and death and starting with the fruit of practice.

“When you open yourself, you get it all. That is part of what it means to be a loving human being. To grow your capacity to be present for this incarnation and its mystery in an openhearted way.” – Jack Kornfield

Jack starts the conversation by exploring the similar messages found in their newest books “No Time Like the Present” and “The Five Invitations.” They talk about a mistake many of us make in our practice, which comes when we look forward to the rewards of practice before their seeds have taken root and flowered.